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Today's Stories

April 28 / 29, 2007

Alexander Cockburn
Is Global Warming a Sin?

April 27, 2007

Eva Liddell
How Can Women Defend Themselves Against Stalkers?

Phyllis Bennis
and Robert Jensen

Moving Beyond Anti-War Politics

Mike Whitney
Where's the Beef?: Padilla and the Zucchini Prosecution

Michael F. Brown
Biden and Pelosi: Failing to Hold Israel Accountable for War Crimes in Lebanon

Jordan Flaherty
Forgotten Mississippi

Margaret Kimberly
John McCain, Cold-Blooded Senator

Christopher Brauchli
The Dangers of Unstable People

Jacob Mundy
Stalemate in the Western Sahara?

Website of the Day
Yee Speaks


April 26, 2007

Andrew Cockburn
Wolfowitz's War

Franklin Lamb
Giuliani Plays the Islamic Terror Card

Patrick Cockburn
Al-Qa'ida Group Behind US Deaths in Iraq

Roger Morris
Dispatches From the Front

Henry Siegman
The Three Nos of Jerusalem

Alevtina Rea
A Sister City Debate in Rachel Corrie's Hometown

Paris
Are You a Hip Hop Apologist?

Nikolas Kozloff
White Racism and the Aymara in Bolivia

Alan Farago
Dow 13,000 Disconnect

Matthew S. Miller
The Limits to Lakoff

Website of the Day
PBS: Blaming Blacks Again


April 25, 2007

Sharon Smith
The Rights of Children in America

David Price
The Long Lost War

Diana Johnstone
Who Wants Sarko? New or Old France?

Brendan Cooney
Cho and Cheney: Killer Looks

Sonja Karkar
Israeli Democracy, For Jews Only?

Brian Concannon
Wolfowitz and Haiti

Lee Gaillard
Baptism Under Fire: Can the Osprey Fly?

Leah Fishbein
Women Under Siege

Dave Lindorff
The First Shoe Drops

Neal Galloway
US Agricultural Policy is Destructive at Home and Abroad

Website of the Day
Anti-War Student Movements: a Short History

 

April 24, 2007

Ishmael Reed
How Imus' Media Collaborators Almost Rescued Their Chief

Lila Rajiva
Tragedy and Irony After Virginia Tech

Paul Craig Roberts
The War Goes Ever On

Patrick Cockburn
Sunnis Protest Baghdad's "Prison Wall"

Ralph Nader
The Corporate Debasement of Earth Day

Mike Whitney
Housing Bubble Boondoggle

Website of the Day
"Refugees"

 

April 23, 2007

Saul Landau
The Courage to Withdraw

Patrick Cockburn
Time of the Death Squads: Iraq as Revenge Tragedy

Robert Fantina
Changing Sentiments

Sam Husseini
The Gonzales Distraction

Corporate Crime Reporter
Bought-and-Paid-For Journalism at the Philly Inquirer

Elizabeth Lalasz
Sick and Getting Sicker

Harvey Wasserman
Earth Day, Incorporated

Dave Lindorff
Huge Win for Impeachment in Vermont: Are You Listening Sen. Leahy?

Gary Leupp
Maoist Homophobia in Nepal?

Stephen Lendman
A Short History of the Christian Right

Website of the Day
No to OLF


April 21 / 22, 2007

Alexander Cockburn
Bring Back the Posse

Fred Gardner
Prozac Madness

Kristoffer Larsson
The Islamic Threat to Europe: By the Numbers

Barbara Rose Johnston
Nuclear War and Its Consequences

Manuel Garcia, Jr.
The Heart of Whiteness: Racism, Wealth and IQ

John Scagliotti
Unlocking Closets, Locking Free Speech

Marjorie Cohn
Gonzo Justice: Counting on Alberto

Patrick Cockburn
Sadr Raises the Stakes

Diana Johnstone
The Absent Middle East

Ron Jacobs
Explaining the Spectre

Evelyn Pringle
How Iraq Was Looted

BANCO
Travesties of Justice in a Black City in Michigan: the Persecution of Rev. Pinkney

Paul Richards
Thinking Big in the Northern Rockies

Dan Bacher
Zapatistas in the Colorado River Delta

Ben Terrall
Showdown at Chevron: SF Protest Against New Iraq Oil Law

Sherwood Ross
How the Taliban Defeated the Pakistani Army in Waziristan

Remi Kanazi
Bill Maher's "Towel-Headed Hos"

Aseem Shrivastava
Behind the Curtain of SEZs

Poets' Basement
Valentine, Reed, Harley and Engel

Website of the Day
Reading Sappho in New Orleans

 

April 20, 2007

Doug Peacock
Beginning of the End for the Yellowstone Grizzly?

Diane Farsetta
Onward, Free Market Soldiers!: Privatizing Public Diplomacy

Tom Clifford
The Surge in Iraqi Civilian Deaths: the Bloodiest 12 Months of the War

Amira Hass
The Holocaust as Political Asset

Nicole Colson
Desperation in Gitmo's Camp 6

Sonja Karkar
Double Jeopardy Entraps Palestinians

Heather Gray
The Supreme Court Looks a Lot Like the Taliban

Dr. Bouthaina Shaaban
Syrian Expeditions

Agustin Velloso
Spain and Iraq, Four Years On

Matthew Koehler
Distorting the News in a Timber Company Town

Website of the Day
Gonzo's Monica

 

April 19, 2007

Emad Mekay /
Jim Lobe
Scoring at the World Bank: Wolfowitz's Quid Pro Quo

Patrick Cockburn
A Day of Bombs and Blood in Baghdad

Larry C. Johnson
The Hobbesian Hell of Iraq: How Many Dead Equal a Failed Government?

Norman Solomon
Bowing Down to Our Own Violence

Saul Williams
Notes from a Hip Hop Head: an Open Letter to Oprah Winfrey

Sunsara Taylor
From Iraq to the Supreme Court: a New Dark Ages for Women

Harvey Wasserman
How Green is Tom Friedman?

Christopher Brauchli
Apologies, Incorporated

Anthony Papa
Nightmare Behind Bars: John Valverde's Fight for Freedom

Dave Lindorff
Betraying Thomas Jefferson

Website of the Day
The Best Antiwar Song of the Iraq War?


April 18, 2007

Lila Rajiva
More Gun Laws or Fewer Idiots? How the Va Tech Administration Failed Its Campus

Landau / Hassen
Tancredo as 17th Century Indian Chief?

Charles Fisher /
Randy Fisher

Don Imus's Firing and the Hip-Hop Culture

Diane Christian
Facing Death Politically

Kevin Prosen
Meeting the Resistance in Iraq

China Hand
Gold Digging: The U.S. Treasury Department's Economic Campaign Against North Korea

Peter Rost, MD
The Strange Profits from a Re-Branded Cancer Drug

Justin Akers Chacón
What's Inside the STRIVE Bill

Jerry Kroth
Virginia Tech and Cho Seung Hui: Love and Unhappiness in an Alien Culture

Sherwood Ross
Massacre at Va Tech: a Brief Glimpse into Daily Life in Iraq

Niranjan Ramakrishnan
The Bonfire of the Hannities

Alice Cherbonnier
Why South Dakota's "Informed Consent" Law Doesn't Go Far Enough

Website of the Year?
"I Hope I Die Before I Get Old"

 

April 17, 2007

Jean Bricmont /
Diana Johnstone
The Elections in France: a Coming Political Tsunami

Paul Craig Roberts
Bloodbath in Blacksburg

Frida Berrigan
Militarizing the Border

Alison Weir
The Message of PBS's "Crossroads" Series: Some Muslims Aren't Bad

John Walsh
Why is the Peace Movement Silent About AIPAC?

Jason Hribal
Resistance is Futile: Emily the Cow and Tyke the Elephant

Evelyn Pringle
The Iraq Money Trail

Ben Terrall
Cuban Exiles Get Hero's Welcome; Haitian Refugees Get Shafted

Stan Cox
1040s and Death Certificates

Soren Ambrose
Confidence Crisis at the IMF

Website of the Day
Go Ahead and Yell: "FIRE!"

 

April 16, 2007

John F. Sugg
Hate and Hypocrisy in the Cox Empire

Ismael Hossein-Zadeh
Escalating Military Spending: Income Redistribution in Disguise

Carl G. Estabrook
The Politics of the Useful Threat: It Didn't Start with the Neo-Cons

Paul Craig Roberts
The Party of Brownshirts

Uri Avnery
Blood on Our Hands

Ralph Nader
Where Are the Cries of Outrage Over Military Rapes?

Eamon McCann
Shame of the Empire: Simon, Sir Bono and Tinkerbelle

Lee Sustar
Decoding the Democrats

Mike Whitney
Trouble in Squanderville: Bubble People and the Faith-Based Market

Don Fitz
Solar Capitalism?

Stephen Lendman
Ecuador Votes for Revolutionary Change

Website of the Day
Black Mesa Water Coalition

 

April 14 / 15, 2007

Alexander Cockburn
Ho Industry Whores

Jorge Mariscal
Gen. Petraeus's Field Manual: a Traveler's Guide to Big Muddy

Jeffrey St. Clair
The Beautiful and the Dammed: How the West Got Flooded

Dave Marsh
The Imus Affair, Hip Hop and Politics

Dr. Trudy Bond
Shrinks, Lies and Torture: How Psychologists Became the Pentagon's Bitches

Joe Bageant
A Feral Dog Howls in Harvard Yard

Fidel Castro
The Terrorist Walks

Alfredo Molano
"More Than Complicated"

Alan Farago
When Miami Crashes

Michael Neumann
Anglophone Fantasies and French Realities

Fred Gardner
Barbara McNair's Unsung Heroism: Bringing Down the Owner of EST

Ron Jacobs
A Conversation with Three Iraq Veterans Against the War

Gail Dines
Racy Sex, Sexy Racism

Linda Ford
Imus and Lady Hoopsters: a Long History of Bias Against Women Athletes

Missy Beattie
What Would Imus Do?: Iraq, Ho, Ho, Ho

Dan La Botz
Farm Labor Organizer Murdered in Mexico

Giuliana Sgrena
The Lies of Mario Lozano

Laura Carlsen
A Moratorium on Free Trade Agreements

Abu Spinoza
Wolfowitz's Real Crimes

Elizabeth Schulte
Grinding It Out with Quentin Tarantino

Poets' Basement
Davies, Harley, Engel and Landau

Website of the Weekend
Vonnegut's Final Interview

 

April 13, 2007

Patrick Cockburn
The Shattering of Mosul

Stephen Soldz
Aid and Comfort for Torturers: Psychology and Coercive Interrogations in Historical Perspective

George Ciccarriello-Maher
The Failed Chávez Coup: Five Years On

Laith al-Saud
Kirkuk, Oil and the Kurds

Dave Zirin
Memo to Imus

John Ross
Drawing a Line in the Heartland

Ramzy Baroud
America as Proxy

Harvey Wasserman
The Novelist Who Hated War: Peace Be With You, Mr. Vonnegut

Lopez, Olivo and Garcia
Columbia University's Two-Tiered Punishments

Dols, Fukumori, Judd and Tillett-Saks
Columbia: On the Wrong Side of Justice

Website of the Day
Democrats: an Iraq Scorecard

 

April 12, 2007

JoAnn Wypijewski
We May be Rid of Imus, But We're Still Stuck with the Culture

Paul Craig Roberts
Big Profits from Big Brother

Marjorie Cohn
U.S. Attorneys and Voting Rights

Evelyn Pringle
Bush Family War Profiteering: Will Congress Finally Cut Them Off?

Ron Jacobs
God Bless You, Mr. Vonnegut

Norman Solomon
The Awful Truth About Hillary, Barack and John

Joe DeRaymond
The Release of Dennis Counterman: The Justice Game, the Alford Plea and Death Row

Nicola Nasser
Squeezing Palestinians into an Impossible Mission

Nikolas Kozloff
Chile, a Country Geographically Located in South America "By Accident"

William S. Lind
Horatio Hornblower's Worst Nightmare

Siegfried L. Sassoon
A Statement Against the Continuation of the War

Website of the Day
Where You Want This Killin' Done?

 


April 11, 2007

R. T. Naylor
Quebec's Lessons for the US: How "Wars on Terror" Should be Fought

Vijay Prashad
The Generation of IEDs and iPods

Patrick Cockburn
The Myth of Tal Afar

Winslow T. Wheeler
When Will the War Money Really Run Out?

Jack Balkwill
Prison for a Peacemaker: A Vietnam Vet Interviews Kathy Kelly

Alan Farago
Florida's Fundamentally Weak Environmental Movement

Russell D. Hoffman
The Carbon Offset Tax is Just Another Nuke Bailout

Peter Rost, MD
The Fine Print on Drug Industry Kickbacks

Mike Whitney
Doomsday for the Greenback?

Dave Lindorff
Torture and Selective Outrage

Susie Day
Peter Pace Porks a Peck of Pinko Perverts

Website of the Day
Save the Internet!

 

April 10, 2007

James G. Abourezk
How Syria Helped the US in the "War on Terror"-and How Bush Said "Thanks"

Earl Ofari Hutchinson
Why Imus Should be Fired-And Why He Won't Be

Joshua Frank
Democrats for War

Lee Sustar
How Concessions by UAW Lost Jobs

Joseph Grosso
Tiger Woods in Dubai: Luxury and Exploitation

Nirmal Ghosh
China and the Fate of the Tiger

Robert Jensen
Impeach the System

Ramzy Baroud
Not an Intellectual Squabble

Paul Rockwell
History Will Vindicate Lt. Ehren Watada

Mario Joseph and
Brian Concannon

Solidaridad? Chávez in Haiti

Fred Wilhelms
Why the New Royalty Rates Hurt Artists

Website of the Day
Thaw!

 

April 9, 2007

Saul Landau
Whining Imperialists

Uri Avnery
Shalom, Shin Bet

Nicole Colson
Sami Al-Arian's Nightmare: an Interview with Nahla Al-Arian

Gideon Levy
Israel Does Not Want Peace

Corporate Crime Reporter
Big Coal Invokes Reverse Nuremberg Defense

Evelyn Pringle
The Surge in Casualties

Hill Kemp
Mega Lessons from Iraq War, Year 5

Martha Rosenberg
Monsanto's Desperate Plea: "Regulate Our Competitors!"

Keith Rosenthal
Behind Boston's Recent "Crime Wave"

Jane Stillwater
Green Zone Cabin Fever

Website of the Day
Support Norman Finkelstein


April 7 / 8, 2007

Alexander Cockburn
Dead Dogs Don't Bleed: How Giuliani Lost America

Sara Roy
A Jewish Plea

Arno J. Mayer
Back to Cleopatra's Nose: Bush-Bashing and Empire's Onward March

Jeffrey St. Clair
In the Realm of the Grizzly Kings

Vicente Navarro
Why Huntington and Beck Are Wrong

Fidel Castro
Where Have All the Bees Gone? And Other Reflections on the Internationalizaton of Genocide

Fred Gardner
Medical News from the Business Pages

Ralph Nader
The IRS Owes You Money

David N. Rahni
Test Tube Zealots: American Chemical Society Purges Iranian Chemists

Arthur Neslen
When an Anti-Semite is Not an Anti-Semite

Pratyush Chandra
Joseph Stiglitz's "Another World"

Missy Beattie
Enough Already! The Politics of Exasperation

Marc Levy
A Beginner's Guide to Combat

Poets' Basement
Reiss, Holt, Orloski and Louise

Website of the Weekend
Reactor Man

 

April 6, 2007

Franklin Lamb
Why is Hezbollah on the Terrorism List?

Gloria La Riva
On the Case of the Cuban Five and Luis Posada Carriles

Corporate Crime Reporter
The Politics of Coal in West Virginia

Ron Jacobs
Good Friday, Beethoven and Patti Smith

Felice Pace
Simon Says: The Pro-Israel Bias of NPR

Walter Brasch
Treason in the White House?

David Swanson
Heroes, Sung and Unsung

Sylvia Syracuse
Roadside Rampage: Salvadoran Murders in Guatemala


April 5, 2007

Patrick Cockburn
A De Facto Hostage Exchange

Tom Barry
The Fred Thompson Factor

Richard W. Behan
Congressional Complicity

Nicola Nasser
Playing US Politics with Iraqi Blood for Oil

Bernadine Dohrn
The New and Old SDS: Convergence Not Division

Laray Polk
Lucky Dragon: Does the World Really Need a New H-Bomb?

Helen Redmond
Female Chauvinist Pigs?

 

April 4, 2007

Col. Dan Smith
"Have You No Sense of Decency?": the Tillman Affair and the Moral Decay of the Army

Joshua Frank
Democratic Blood Money: Sen. Feinstein's War Profiteering

Margaret Kimberly
Of Confessions and Torture

Sharon Smith
Circuit City's Guinea Pigs: the Latest Trend in Corporate America

Jeff Cohen and Norman Solomon
The Martin Luther King You Don't See on TV

Martin Luther King,Jr.
Beyond Vietnam

Bill Quigley
Incident at Fort Huachuca, the Army's Torture Training Center

Dave Zirin
Picking Chicago's Pockets with the Olympics

Evelyn Pringle
Drug Companies Want Women of Childrearing Years

Peter Rost, MD
Pfizer's Puny Fine

Website of the Day
Crash of the Honey Bees

 

April 3, 2007

Patrick Cockburn
US's Bungled Plan to Kidnap Iran's Top Spook Prompted hostage Taking

Marjorie Cohn
Coming Up Short on Habeas Corpus for Gitmo Detainees

Brian M. Downing
The Army's Road to Iraq

Corporate Crime Reporter
Coddling Pfizer: Praise the Criminal, Dis the Whistleblower

Carol Norris
A Psychologist on Sexual Assault: Yes, Virginia, There is a Sollution

Ralph Nader
Tailpipe Blues

Dave Lindorff
I Quit: A Movement of One (Or a Maybe a Million)

Scott Bontz
The Great Depletion

Thomas Dolby
Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Racism and the National Anthem

Website of the Day
Cockburn on BookTV


April 2, 2007

Gary Leupp
A Bogus Hostage Crisis

Uri Avnery
Condi in the Middle East: Olmert and the Pussycat

James Petras
Palestine: The Political Economy of a Disaster

Norman Solomon
McCain in Baghdad: Walking in McNamara's Footsteps

Robert Fisk
War of Humiliation

Stanley Heller
A Neocon Looks Two Conquests Ahead: The Ravings of James Woolsey

Sherwood Ross
How the Pentagon Cheats Iraq Vets Out of Medical Care and Disability Pay

Monica Benderman
On Keeping Men Alive: Report from Ft. Stewart

Stephen Fleischman
Winners and Losers in a Dog-Eat-Dog System

Anne McElroy Dachel
Never Mind the Mercury

Website of the Day
Midwestern Common Sense on the War


March 31 / April 1, 2007

Cockburn / St. Clair
That Was an Antiwar Vote?

Fred Gardner
How Corrupt is Malcolm Gladwell? Shilling for Enron and Breast Cancer

Greg Moses
The Pirates of Homeland Security

Gary Leupp
300 vs. Iran (and Herodotus)

Robert Fisk
Shakespeare and War

Roger Morris
The Politics of the Witch Hunt

Conn Hallinan
The Price of Fire: Oil, Water and Resistance in Bolivia

Kristin J. Anderson
A Protocol for Death

Jason Hribal
California's Most Unhappy Cows

John Ross
Strange Fruit Down South

Christopher Brauchli
Bush and the Politics of Falsehoods: If You're Going to Lie, Lie Big

David Underhill
War Breeds Stranger Bedfellows

Elizabeth Schulte
The Pentagon's "Don't Ask" Disaster

Ben Terrall
Time for Lula to Stop Doing Bush's Dirty Work in Haiti

Missy Beattie
Guess Who Isn't Coming to Dinner: The Story of King Abdullah and the O-Word

Sonja Karkar
How Palestine Became Israel's Land

Daniel Wolff
Have You Heard the News?

David Vest
A Romanian Jazz Rebel Drops a Bomb on Paris

Ron Jacobs
Wynton Marsalis Checks In on the Land That Never Has Been Yet

Poets' Basement
Davies, Holt, Wigley and Landau

Website of the Weekend
Kansas City Rocks

 

 

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April 28 / 29, 2007

An Interview with Dave Marsh

The War on Hip Hop

By ALAN MAASS

No sooner had talk radio's Don Imus been fired by CBS for his slur against the Rutgers women's basketball team than the media's focus turned to a favorite scapegoat: hip-hop music. And leading the way were not only the usual assortment right-wingers, but a succession of Black establishment figures.

Dave Marsh has been writing about music for four decades. He is the editor of the newsletter Rock & Rap Confidentialand author of numerous books, including The Heart of Rock and Soul: The 1001 Greatest Singles Ever Made and Two Hearts, the definitive biography of Bruce Springsteen.

MAASS: somehow, in the wake of Don Imus' firing, there's a backlash against the furthest thing from Imus--rap and hip-hop music. How did they get the blame for Imus?

MARSH: the show has always involved a great deal of race-baiting. But the formula was that Bernard McGuirk told the n----r jokes, as Imus called them on 60 Minutes, and Imus, with a nod and a wink, pretended to chastise him for it. And Bernard being back the next day and doing the same thing told us rather effectively how sincere the chastisement was.

This time, what happened was Imus crossed the line, and he himself said, "nappy-headed hos." That tore the cover off the pretense that it wasn't like this every day, no matter how many presidential candidates and how many respectable people were on that show.

Every day, that show was based in explicit racism--every single day. This is, in fact, certain people's truth about race. It's Bernard McGuirk's truth about race. It's Don Imus' truth about race.

So how do you put the lid back on once this truth gets shown? You put the lid back on by getting rid of the guy who took the lid off. And then, you go for a scapegoat--and you say that this is just as bad as that.

And the thing that was sitting there, waiting for it to happen, was hip-hop. Because, first, hip-hoppers speak Black vernacular language--they talk the way people talk in their community. And second, hip-hop is made by people who don't have the education in what you don't say. They say it. And because they get a lot of attention when they say "bitch" and "ho," they say it more.

Now, I don't think I've ever met a hip-hopper who, one, didn't go to church--maybe Ice T doesn't--and two, didn't love their mom. You wouldn't want to be in the same room with them, and call any woman who had the loosest connection to them a "bitch" or a "whore." Because doing that, then it's real. Otherwise, there's this unreality to it.

So this is yet another way that the people who make hip-hop are vulnerable. Young Black men are six times more likely to go to prison then their percentage in the population, and approximately 600 times more likely to be censored.

And now, you have the transferal of the discussion away from the fact that many of the most powerful people in America had been on that show--up to and including the most powerful, Dick Cheney. In fact, three Republican presidential candidates--John McCain, Mike Huckabee and Rudoph Giuliani--all defended Imus, until it became very apparent that the worm had turned, and that Imus was, on that day, where Alberto Gonzales is today.

Plus, this whole argument gives them cover on another issue. They can act like they're the ones who are anti-corporate, and that the whole of rap has become this "bitch-ho" music because Jimmy Iovine wanted it that way, and Universal and the other media companies want it.

And here's where you get someone like that despicable third-tier sportswriter, Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star, making his desperate bid for a general interest column by attacking hip-hoppers, and using this as his vehicle. And in the meantime, also attacking the coach, C. Vivian Stringer--out of the clear blue sky.

MAASS: Is music the cause of the social ills that people are talking about, or is it a reflection?

MARSH: Well, hip-hop began in 1979, so I guess what we're supposed to assume here is that before 1979, there was no sexism, that Black people didn't call each other n----r, that men didn't abuse women, that big corporations didn't exploit young Black recording artists on a regular basis, and that everybody on the radio was hunky dory with the Martin Luther King program.

Did hip-hop cause these things? Of course it didn't. What started them was a number of things that are a lot more complicated than that--capitalism; patriarchy; chattel slavery and plantations in the South before the Civil War, on which slaves were bred as if they were cattle or horses; a hundred years of peonage after the Civil War; the complete lack of an American education system that tells the truth about America, where it came from and what its problems are.

Maybe if you interview Jason Whitlock or Oprah Winfrey or somebody next, they'll be able to correct you on this, but to my fairly certain knowledge, all of these things existed before the Sugar Hill Gang made "Rappers' Delight," and before NWA made "F--- Tha Police." But in the hallucinatory world we live in, who can be sure?

MAASS: One writer made the point that it's not like Snoop Dogg has a talk show on cable TV.

MARSH: Well, Snoop Dogg is plenty powerful, and I think what he said here needs to be reckoned with--which, basically, was: I say what I say, but I wouldn't say that.

I think part of what this means--and I want to say this without letting anybody off the hook--is that this was his language, and Imus didn't understand it and misused it. And that response has to do with the fact there is nothing that Black people have created that white people don't feel free to expropriate--music being a very, very good example.

Capitalism constantly forces change on people, and at the same time, another aspect of it constantly resists change--because somewhere in the one or two or five or a hundred of those changes is the seeds of its destruction.

If we really had a national dialogue about racism and sexism, capitalism would be over. People wouldn't put up with it. Because they would understand that when Don Imus disrespects the women on the Rutgers basketball team, he's a reflecting a disrespect for their mother--hell, he's reflecting a disrespect for his mother.

And they would understand that racism is a vehicle not just to degrade Black people, but to degrade all people, and to turn them into something much more like cattle or horses. I think that's why they need the scapegoat--that's why they need to get off the subject.

Their system is in a lot of trouble right now. It's in economic trouble--the mortgage crisis being the face of that for the moment. It's in geopolitical trouble--Iraq being the face of that, but also Hugo Chavez being another face, and Fidel, for his refusal to die. I think that these things happening one thing after another is a sign that some of the illusions about the system are unraveling.

And then, you get these guys out there who aren't very good at defending the system. You wouldn't pick Jason Whitlock to defend your system if you were really all that in control in the first place. I'm not even sure that you would have Bill Cosby go out and attack working class Black people as criminal and negligent because they named their daughter Shaniqua--a beautiful name, I might add.

But the illusion that the system controls everything that happens, and that it can fix problems fairly rapidly, without inconveniencing anybody here in the core too much, and who cares about the rest of the world--that illusion is coming apart, and I think this is symptomatic of it.

But there remains another problem for all of us who don't live at the Don Imus-Dick Cheney level, which is how we deal with the fact that we have a sexist and racist culture that we live in. How do we deal with the fact that white supremacy pervades everything that's happened to anybody, white or Black, every hour of their life? And male supremacy, too.

That's going to require some thinking, because you aren't going to get an answer by just saying you can't do that. Forbidding things doesn't work, unless along with the forbidding, you get education. And the system can't afford to educate people, particularly on these kinds of subjects.

MAASS: There's also a tendency to talk about hip-hop as all one thing, as if there were no differences among these people. Can you talk about the development of hip-hop, and how gangster rap arose within that--and how that got to be a target of the media?

MARSH: They never, ever talk in detail. They never talk about this record, or those two tracks on that record. It's always all of hip-hop.

When hip-hop develops in the streets of the Bronx in the late 1970s, with Afrika Bambaataa and Kool Herc and that whole crowd of people, to get electrical power for their turntables and speaker systems, they were plugging into lamp posts.

It was poor people's music. It was people who didn't have musical instruments, but still had musical instincts. And they had some kind of record collection, but had other ideas about what you could do with it.

This kind of broke out with "The Message," by Grandmaster Flash, and especially the Run DMC records. So by 1985, everybody in America knew what rap music was--however distorted their image of it might have been. There was an awareness that it threatened the hegemony of rock and roll, a notion that was very real and very accurate--and a growing awareness that this music wasn't going to stay confined in its popularity to Black kids.

What there was less awareness of, in my opinion, was the fact that there was, within hip-hop, some serious social criticism. It wasn't on the Run DMC records. It wasn't on the LL Cool J records. But the Public Enemy records were essentially electronic Malcolm X.

What happens next is that hip-hop gets to LA. It's always fascinated me why NWA was considered the first truly gangster group. It wasn't that there weren't gangsters in Brooklyn, or in the Bronx or Harlem. So why did this expression come from there? Maybe it was that Eazy-E really had been a dealer.

But the way it breaks out isn't as gangster. The way it breaks out is the song "F--- Tha Police." That touched a nerve.

It's not an accident that it comes along at the height of the drug war. It's not an accident that it comes along when the CIA had just finished running its scam to introduce crack into Black neighborhoods, particularly in LA. All of that is the background, just as part of the background of Elvis Presley was Brown v. Board of Education.

But the song also touched a nerve with the FBI and scared the hell out of the police. And it was happening in LA, too, which is a little bit more like the South in its police-community relations than New York is.

So that set the thing off. Those were big records, using language that people never thought you could get away with using, and still sell records. There's been a crackdown on this for about the last 20 years, and they began to put the warning labels on records.

But all these people knew about NWA was "F--- Tha Police." They didn't know that song was written by Ice Cube, and that Ice Cube would also come up with "It Was a Good Day," which is a beautiful vision.

It wasn't necessary for the people who were leading the charge to know that, because they didn't want to know about it. They just wanted to lead the charge--because you were in the middle of that huge expansion of the prison system, and this came along at a very convenient time.

The anti-rock crowd was basically a cat's paw for James Dobson's Focus on the Family. It pretended to be a parents' organization, when, in fact, it was an organization entirely composed of politicians' wives. NWA and the Ghetto Boys gave them a convenient target, and because of the use of the word n----r, they even had cover on racism.

That's the history of the thing, and the attack hasn't let up since, despite the fact that the major labels all have lyric committees now--and because of that, I can't remember the last time a really gangster record was put out by a major record label.

So I think that's the history. Really, what I should have given you as an answer is to read Can't Stop Won't Stop, by Jeff Chang, because it is, and probably will remain for quite a long time, the definitive history of hip-hop--of the early years in particular. It's the best music book that I've read in more than a decade.

Alan Maass is the editor of the Socialist Worker and author of The Case for Socialism. He can be reached at: alanmaass@sbcglobal.net

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